8 es mi eneatipo…así es…me gusta identificarme más con Susan Sarandon, Sigourney Weaver, Glen Close y, cómo no, Picasso (jaja!) que con Saddham Hussein y Donnald Trump, pero bueno…y en algunos momentos de mi vida hay que decir que he sido más como Courtney Love (Ahem!!)
I´m an 8..that´s just the way it is..I´d rather identify myself with Susan Sarandon, Sigourney Weaver, Glen Close and, why not, Picasso (haha!) rather than Saddham Hussein or Donald Trump, but whadeva…and at some points in my life I have to admit I´ve been a bit on the Courtney Love side (Ahem!!)
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The Powerful, Dominating Type:
Self-Confident, Decisive, Willful, and Confrontational
Type Eight in Brief
Eights are self-confident, strong, and assertive. Protective, resourceful, straight-talking, and decisive, but can also be ego-centric and domineering. Eights feel they must control their environment, especially people, sometimes becoming confrontational and intimidating. Eights typically have problems with their tempers and with allowing themselves to be vulnerable. At their Best: self- mastering, they use their strength to improve others’ lives, becoming heroic, magnanimous, and inspiring.
- Basic Fear: Of being harmed or controlled by others
- Basic Desire: To protect themselves (to be in control of their own life
- Enneagram Eight with a Seven-Wing: “The Maverick”
- Enneagram Eight with a Nine-Wing: “The Bear”
Key Motivations: Want to be self-reliant, to prove their strength and resist weakness, to be important in their world, to dominate the environment, and to stay in control of their situation.
The Meaning of the Arrows (in brief)
When moving in their Direction of Disintegration (stress), self-confident Eights suddenly become secretive and fearful at Five. However, when moving in their Direction of Integration (growth), lustful, controlling Eights become more open-hearted and caring, like healthy Twos. For more information, click here.
Examples: Martin Luther King, Jr., Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Mikhail Gorbachev, G.I. Gurdjieff, Pablo Picasso, Richard Wagner, Sean Connery, Susan Sarandon, Glenn Close, John Wayne, Charlton Heston, Norman Mailer, Mike Wallace, Barbara Walters, Ann Richards, Toni Morrison, Lee Iococca, Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Bette Davis, Roseanne Barr, James Brown, Chrissie Hynde, Courtney Love, Leona Helmsley, Sigourney Weaver, Fidel Castro, Saddham Hussein, and John McCain.
Type Eight Overview
We have named personality type Eight The Challenger because, of all the types, Eights enjoy taking on challenges themselves as well as giving others opportunities that challenge them to exceed themselves in some way. Eights are charismatic and have the physical and psychological capacities to persuade others to follow them into all kinds of endeavors—from starting a company, to rebuilding a city, to running a household, to waging war, to making peace.
Eights have enormous willpower and vitality, and they feel most alive when they are exercising these capacities in the world. They use their abundant energy to effect changes in their environment—to “leave their mark” on it—but also to keep the environment, and especially other people, from hurting them and those they care about. At an early age, Eights understand that this requires strength, will, persistence, and endurance—qualities that they develop in themselves and which they look for in others.
Thayer is a stockbroker who has worked intensively on understanding her type Eight personality. She recounts a childhood incident in which she could clearly see the development of this pattern.
“Much of my tenacity and toughness comes from my Dad. He always told me not to ‘let anybody push you around.’ It was not okay to cry. I learned to master my weaker side early on. At the tender age of eight, a huge horse ran away with me. When an adult caught the horse, I resolutely dismounted without a tear. I could tell my father was proud.”
Eights do not want to be controlled or to allow others to have power over them (their Basic Fear), whether the power is psychological, sexual, social, or financial. Much of their behavior is involved with making sure that they retain and increase whatever power they have for as long as possible. An Eight may be a general or a gardener, a small businessman or a mogul, the mother of a family or the superior of a religious community. No matter: being “in charge” and leaving their imprint on their sphere is uniquely characteristic of them.
Eights are the true “rugged individualists” of the Enneagram. More than any other type, they stand alone. They want to be independent, and resist being indebted to anyone. They often refuse to “give in” to social convention, and they can defy fear, shame, and concern about the consequences of their actions. Although they are usually aware of what people think of them, they do not let the opinions of others sway them. They go about their business with a steely determination that can be awe inspiring, even intimidating to others.
Although, to some extent, Eights fear physical harm, far more important is their fear of being disempowered or controlled in some way. Eights are extraordinarily tough and can absorb a great deal of physical punishment without complaint—a double-edged blessing since they often take their health and stamina for granted and overlook the health and well-being of others as well. Yet they are desperately afraid of being hurt emotionally and will use their physical strength to protect their feelings and keep others at a safe emotional distance. Beneath the tough façade is vulnerability, although it has been covered over by layer of emotional armor.
Thus, Eights are often extremely industrious, but at the price of losing emotional contact with many of the people in their lives. Those close to them may become increasingly dissatisfied with this state of affairs, which confounds Eights. (“I don’t understand what my family is complaining about. I bust my hump to provide for them. Why are they disappointed with me?”)
When this happens, Eights feel misunderstood and may distance themselves further. In fact, beneath their imposing exterior, Eights often feel hurt and rejected, although this is something they seldom talk about because they have trouble admitting their vulnerability to themselves, let alone to anyone else. Because they fear that they will be rejected (divorced, humiliated, criticized, fired, or harmed in some way), Eights attempt to defend themselves by rejecting others first. The result is that average Eights become blocked in their ability to connect with people or to love since love gives the other power over them, reawakening their Basic Fear.
The more Eights build up their egos in order to protect themselves, the more sensitive they become to any real or imaginary slight to their self-respect, authority, or preeminence. The more they attempt to make themselves impervious to hurt or pain (whether physical or emotional), the more they “shut down” emotionally to become hardened and rock-like.
When Eights are emotionally healthy, however, they have a resourceful, “can-do” attitude as well as a steady inner drive. They take the initiative and make things happen with a great passion for life. They are honorable and authoritative—natural leaders who have a solid, commanding presence. Their groundedness gives them abundant “common sense” as well as the ability to be decisive. Eights are willing to “take the heat,” knowing that any decision cannot please everyone. But as much as possible, they want to look after the interests of the people in their charge without playing favorites. They use their talents and fortitude to construct a better world for everyone in their lives.
(from The Wisdom of the Enneagram, p. 289-291)
Miedo básico: ser herido o dominado por otros
Deseo básico: protegerse, tener el control de su propia vida y de su destino
El tipo Ocho con ala Siete: “el Independiente”
El tipo Ocho con ala Nueve: “el Oso”
Resumen de Perfil del Tipo de Personalidad Ocho
Sanos. Asertivos, confiados en sí mismos y fuertes, los tipo Ocho sanos han aprendido a luchar para conseguir lo que necesitan y desean. Están orientados a la acción; tienen una actitud de “puedo hacerlo” y cuentan con una gran motivación interna. Les encantan los desafíos y son hábiles para iniciar proyectos; toman la iniciativa y hacen que las cosas ocurran. Son líderes naturales que los demás respetan y a quienes acuden en busca de orientación. Decididos, autoritarios y dominantes, los tipo Ocho sanos se ganan el respeto a través de ser honorables y utilizan el poder en forma constructiva defendiendo y protegiendo a la gente, actuando como proveedores, auspiciadores y promotores de causas nobles y empresas valiosas. En su mejor estado: se vuelven moderados, magnánimos, misericordiosos y tolerantes. Son capaces de dominarse a través de autodoblegarse ante una autoridad. Valientes, deseosos de ponerse en peligro para obtener lo que buscan y causar una influencia duradera. Pueden ser heroicos e históricamente grandiosos.
Promedio. A los tipo Ocho promedio les preocupa llegar a ser autosuficiente así como independientes a nivel económico. Son “individualistas recios,” pragmáticos, emprendedores, trabajadores y muy audaces; les encantan las aventuras y correr riesgos para ponerse a prueba y reafirmarse. Empiezan a querer dominar todo el ambiente (incluso a la demás gente) y se vuelven enérgicos, agresivos, orgullosos, egocéntricos y expansivos: se convierten en “el jefe” cuya palabra es ley. Imponen su voluntad y visión en todo y no ven a los demás como sus iguales ni los tratan con respeto. Sienten que deben salirse con la suya y se vuelven confrontadores, beligerantes, amedrentadores y desafiantes al mismo tiempo que tienden a crear relaciones antagónicas. Todo lo convierten en una prueba de voluntad y nunca ceden. Utilizan amenazas y represalias para que los demás les obedezcan, para mantenerlos en desequilibrio y con una sensación de impotencia. Sin embargo, el trato injusto hace que los demás tengan resentimientos y existe la posibilidad de que se agrupen en contra de ellos.
Malsanos. Los tipo Ocho malsanos se aferran a su poder y quieren prevalecer con el control sin importar el costo. Se vuelven totalmente crueles, violentos, inmorales y despiadados, dictatoriales y opresivos. No admiten la culpa, ni el temor ni cualquier otro sentimiento humano. Comienzan a desarrollar ideas delirantes acerca de sí mismos y se sienten omnipotentes, invencibles e invulnerables. Cada vez se vuelven más temerarios y si sienten que están en peligro, pueden destruir con crueldad a todo aquel que no haya acatado su voluntad. Vengativos, salvajes, con tendencias asesinas y sociópatas.
Motivaciones clave. Desean tener confianza en sí mismos, probar su fuerza y resistir la debilidad, ser importantes en su mundo, dominar lo que les rodea y tener el control de todas las situaciones.
Ejemplos. M. L. King, Jr., FDR, LBJ, Mikhail Gorbachev, G.I. Gurdjieff, Pablo Picasso, Richard Wagner, Sean Connery, Susan Sarandon, Glenn Close, Russel Crowe, John Wayne, Charlton Heston, Norman Mailer, Mike Wallace, Barbara Walters, Ann Richards, Toni Morrison, Lee Iococca, Donald Trump, Leona Helmsley, Frank Sinatra, Bette Davis, Roseanne Barr, James Brown, Chrissie Hynde. Courtney Love, Fidel Castro y Saddham Hussein.